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Another message from Patrice:
Yes it could be pancreatitis. Ask the vet to do the cPL Canine pancreatic specific
lipase test.
It could also be EPI, exocrine pancreatic insufficiency.
This is all covered on the dogaware page I linked to. You can read this page and match up the symptoms with the conditions.
But it makes sense, the dog gets hungry and wants to eat but when he does it hurts badly and he isn’t getting the nutrition into the body. Small easy to digest meals to rest the pancreas, just enough calories to get to the next meal. Rice congee, try the liquid only at first, recipe is on Mary’s site. I am not sure if fasting would help but that is usually recommended during the acute stage of pancreatitis. The cPL test would tell you if it is pancreatitis.
Amy, Patrice has just emailed this through to me to post:
Gurgling with oily is often a problem with SIBO small intestine bacterial overgrowth, usually due to being treated with antibiotics. This is covered in detail on this page. You know that I recommend a treatment of metrondiazole along with a very potent probiotic, the one I linked to you Natures way Optima. She needs to use something with 14 probiotic strains, at a dose of at least 35billion. Expensive but worth it.
Low fat diet, as the berner is unable to diet fat properly, enough calories to get to the next meal, just enough protein and easily digestible carbohydrates.
Have a look at this site too:
http://dogaware.com/health/digestive.html
Amy, if pancreatitis, that’s serious and needs to be seen by vet. No food . If you’re going to the vets, no water either.
See:
https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/AIHA_Terms/pancreatitis
Remember the gums will always go pale when resting and colour returns when they are more active.
Thanks for the update Amy.
Is Dr Jean to call you back? I wasn’t aware she did phone consults. Keep her on your side to get through this. You can’t do better than to have her advice.
I must admit I had a laugh at your getting the big middle finger. I remember some of the times I took Bingo to the vets, and he looked terrible, he would surprise me at times with his results. It’s never every just simple is it.
xxx Vally
Danielle, tomorrow is fine for the blood test results.
As to the ultra sound, I’m not too sure, but if they didn’t see anything the first time, don’t worry too much. Ha, high hopes, right??? I was always such a worrier and will never be different.
While you’re at work, you could set up a camera?? Do you have a spare phone you could use? There are apps that you can use to monitor. That might make you feel better.
The cyclosporine should NOT be given with other drugs. Ideally 2 hours away from food and drugs. Can you maybe give it at 6am and 6pm?
Another thing, is Savannah on thyroid medication? Dr Jean Dodds, who is our site’s Angel, and an expert in this disease, recommends it when treating this disease (even if a dog is not hypothyroid) as it helps the marrow produce red blood cells. Can you ask if they’ve tested the thyroid? I don’t know how easy it is to speak with the vets, but if they could include it in the treatment that would be ideal.
Vally